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Poster: GersonK Date: May 10, 2004 1:05pm
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Re: When was this film actually made?

At least one clue puts some of it as being shot ca. April 1968. At about 9:49 there's a shot of ads plastered to a wall - including one for New York Magazine with a story on "The City on the Eve of Destruction".
A googling shows it as the third(!) issue, 4/22/68.
http://www.pastpaper.com/List-TravelNewYork.htm

Not very helpful in dating it, but still interseting (I think) is that the building featured around 9:15, the Jefferson Market courthouse had just begun its life as a library branch:
http://nypl.org/branch/local/man/jmrinfo.html
http://nypl.org/branch/local/man/jmr.cfm
http://wotan.liu.edu/~amatsuuchi/historical_timeline.html

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Poster: Marysz Date: May 10, 2004 1:49pm
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Why are the Bohemians so bogus?

Thanks for checking the dates out! I stand corrected. I guess parts of the film were made in '68 after all . . . what about other parts of the film like the “party in the garret of a bohemian friend,” where some of the guests have donned jaunty berets and sunglasses for the filmaker's benefit? It's a suburbanite's ersatz version of bohemia.

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Poster: GersonK Date: May 11, 2004 11:17am
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Re: Why are the Bohemians so bogus?

To paraphrase Joel Hodgson - "If these people are Bohemians, then my mom's a Bohemian. And she's not!"

I've put together an album at the yahoo group (guess it's still worth having the group and this board) demonstrating the range of fashions at the party:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/archivemovieoftheweekgroup/lst

There are actually maybe only five people with really "stagey" outfits at the party. (Other than our 'stars'. And two more in sunglasses - indoors. Flout those conventions, baby!)

The rest are in fairly believable, if not very Bohemian, outfits. But as others have alluded to - exactly what is a Bohemian supposed to look like?


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Poster: Marysz Date: May 11, 2004 2:01pm
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: What does a Bohemian look like?

It's a good question. The people at the party look too well off and too well-groomed to be really "bohemian." They're way too socially acceptable. And what about where the party's held? I wouldn't exactly call it a "garret." It's seems to be the ground floor of a high-priced row house.

This post was modified by Marysz on 2004-05-11 21:01:09

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Poster: ZlataHudba Date: May 11, 2004 2:09pm
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Re: Why are the Bohemians so bogus?

The real question is how did a region, Bohemia, in the Czech Republic get such a reputation? Probably from the Pucini Opera...
How about...What was Shakespeare thinking when he wrote "Thou art perfect then our ship hath touched upon the deserts of Bohemia" in The Winter's Tale? ...pretty silly when you realize Bohemia is land locked!!!

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Poster: summerseve Date: May 12, 2004 12:14am
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Re: the word "Bohemian"

Wikipedia has a nice explanation of the term here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemianism
Turns out it was born of French ignorance and condescension. Go figure...

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Poster: Marysz Date: May 12, 2004 6:04am
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Re: the word 'Bohemian'

Thanks for the link. I particularly like the quote "Literary 'bohemians' were associated in the French imagination with roving gypsies, outsiders apart from conventional society and untroubled by its disapproval, perhaps also a connotation of being the bearers of arcane enlightenment (the opposite of 'Philistines') and perhaps silently accused too of being careless of personal hygiene. " Does that apply to anybody we see in RFD Greenwhich Village?

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Poster: ridetheory Date: May 11, 2004 2:14am
Forum: movie_of_the_week Subject: Re: Why are the Bohemians so bogus?

I kept expecting Joe Friday to bust them all.

"Don't inhale, Joe, you'll get higher than Apollo 8!"


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